Set yourself free with our new Prepaid services. We’ve changed the game for Prepaid. With our Data and Talk $40 and above Combo Starter Packs and recharges, you’ll now get a 35 day expiry. That’s an extra week more than our old Combos to make the most of your inclusions. Our new Data Combos are packed with data to use in Australia, and $40 and above Talk Combos have 1000 standard international minutes to either 15 or 25 selected destinations. You can also grab a Prepaid 365 Plus service that lasts up to 365 days. Once you’ve found the perfect Prepaid service, it’s easy to online. The best way to recharge is through. You can also recharge via TXT. I was just wondering why there is a double standard in terms of getting a prepaid SIM card from outlets across Australia. If I walk into a 7 eleven store and ask to purchase a prepaid SIM I get asked to produce ID and then when I get home I have to ID myself when activating it online or over the phone. However, for example if I was to go to the Optus website and purchase a prepaid SIM online, I'm not being asked to produce ID in person like I did in 7 eleven. Feb 20, 2017 Steps to Activate a Vodafone SIM Card. Online prepaid SIM card activation (INSTANT). Vodafone Australia. I then get that Optus prepaid SIM which I purchased online via their website in a few days time in the post, I then activate it online and start using it. I also know people that have purchased prepaid mobile SIM cards from Optus online and not using their real details for privacy reasons when they activated it online after receiving it in the post and have been using that same SIM for many years. This proves that Optus does not have an online cross referencing system to check Id's as they claim. This is not just about Optus only but also for all other mobile providers. 'Since 1997, the Determination has provided for a point-of-sale process that requires CSPs to collect information about purchasers of pre-paid services at the time the service is purchased, prior to its activation. CSPs are then required, for all purchases made other than by credit or debit card, to verify the person’s identity by viewing identifying documents such as passports or birth certificates.' I'm very well aware of this, but it still doesn't answer the question when it comes to purchasing from online such as Optus as I have already mention above. Found what I was looking for: The CSP or its retail agent must collect the following information about each purchaser: [b] Individuals [b] [b] Point of sale: cash or cheque [b] If payment is by cash or cheque, either one of the Category A documents or two of the Category B documents must be shown. These documents must be current. Category A An identification card issued by a tertiary education institution. A licence or permit issued under Commonwealth, State or Territory law. For example, a driver's licence. A pension, benefit or health care card. A birth certificate. A document that is recognised as a proof of identity under Commonwealth, State or Territory law. For example, a Keypass card. Category B A credit, debit or automatic teller machine card. A Medicare card. A bank passbook. A fixed network telephone bill issued in the last 12 months, showing the name and address you have given. A local council rates statement issued in the last 12 months showing the name and address you have given. [b] Point of sale: Credit/Debit card [b] Payment by credit or debit card is sufficient identification. For example: What happens if someone purchases a prepaid sim online through the Optus website in their friends name and uses their debit/credit card with their permission and gives their friend cash because they didn't have a credit/debit card, is this still legal but their friend will be held responsible if something goes wrong? Also I'm guessing that with the purchase of prepaid debit cards from supermarkets like Woolworths and Coles that you must provide 100 points of ID on purchase and not just being able to purchase it and walk out without providing ID and just registering it once you are home on the net. I just walked into my local Woolworths and asked about what ID I would need to produce to buy a prepaid Debit Card and I was told that I didn't need any. All I had to do was purchase a prepaid Debit Card over the counter and load upto $1000.00 onto it and I was good to go and would be able to use to purchase things online. I personally think because you are allowed to purchase and use a prepaid Debit card without producing 100 points of ID, that it shouldn't be sufficient to purchase a prepaid SIM card online like through the Optus website because I could be anybody. I have started this topic because I'm in the process of setting up an automated website to resell prepaid mobile recharge PINs online with the possibility of SIM cards online as well with a Debit/Credit card being the payment method. So it looks like to me that the SIM cards will pose an issue. I don't see what prepaid debit cards have to do with anything. Part of the ID requirement for simcards is so the owner/user can be tracked down if they are used for abusive or illegal purposes. Hardly something that you can do with a debit card. Show quoted With a prepaid debit card, I don't have to register it or ID myself. I just simply walk into Woolworths and purchase one for $2.95 and load upto $1,000.00 onto it and can start using online to purchase things SUCH as an Optus prepaid SIM card via their website. So with a prepaid debit card I could be anyone, do you see what I'm saying here? Lets be realistic, do you really think these 'criminals' and 'terrorists' are really registering sim cards they're using for criminal activities under their own names? I don't think so. Do you really think that the government think that? For a start, if they used fake photo ID in one place, they'll use it elsewhere too. They'll also know the whereabouts of where that simcard was purchased, with such a form having been signed. I love it how every day people think they can poo poo the criminal investigators. All this is doing is making things difficult for the rest of us that are honest people and are not committing any crime. What is difficult? How the hell is it difficult? People just need to stop whinging and stop being so damn paranoid. If you're not a crim whats the effing problem. Not this subject again. Its not like this is a new thing, its been a legal requirement since before PrePaid services even were common amongst the mobile carriers. The people selling you the phones and SIMs share the same apathy from having to endure the same whinges from the same type of customers, and the waste of time it takes to fill out the shit. ACMA sends auditors around to check it too, thus why the bigger retailers (supermarkets) who used to turn a blind eye to not filling out the forms are fairly harsh with it now in comparison to how lenient they were earlier on. If I walk into a 7 eleven store and ask to purchase a prepaid SIM I get asked to produce ID Not always. When i purchased an amaysim a couple of weeks back i was never asked for ID – i got it from a dick smith store. I wasn't asked to provide 100 points of ID while signing up either – just my name and address etc – the 100 points only became necessary if i wanted a bill instead of prepaid. What is difficult? How the hell is it difficult? People just need to stop whinging and stop being so damn paranoid. If you're not a crim whats the effing problem. Well i'm not a criminal, but i still get nervous everytime i sign up for a new contract with vodafone or 3 and someone 10 years younger than me heads out the back to photocopy all of my ID, including my credit card. Yes, i DO think there is a problem with anyone taking a copy of my credit card. Am i too paranoid? Sure nothing has ever happened, but if it ever did, it would be very difficult (or impossible) to prove to the debt collectors (or the bank) that it wasn't me. Well i'm not a criminal, but i still get nervous everytime i sign up for a new contract with vodafone or 3 and someone 10 years younger than me heads out the back to photocopy all of my ID, including my credit card. I think this as well. One way to cover this is if the retail staff provide their 100 points of id on another part of the form that you get to confirm and keep. I have in the past purchased prepaid phones with sim cards to replace a broken handset. I've given the prepaid sim with $20 credit to friends or relatives to use. They probably still have my id associated even though i don't remember. I believe a criminal would be able to get someone off the street to buy a prepaid phone for them, so the id requirement probably has zero impact on any criminal. Some SIMs are sold at servos and similar are just pieces of plastic and chips with no number assigned to them. Amaysim are one of these. You buy a SIM for $2.00 and then you logon to the internet (or call them up) and identify yourself and then you get a number assigned to your shiny new SIM. It becomes more seriously activated when you load money onto the SIM. With Amaysim you can use that SIM as either prepaid or postpaid. If you get more than 5 prepaid SIMs they think you are a terrorist and want more ID. Telstra sell prepaid SIMs that already have a number assigned to them and all you need to do is activate them at the time of your choice. For this you have to bare all and drip blood on the form so that you are suitably identified at the time of purchase. It makes buying a Telstra prepaid phone and SIM a tedious business. IIRC this form goes from the retailer to one of the government departments. Probably ASIO but who knows. I have experience with both of these recently. I know that purchasing a prepaid SIM with a credit/debit is sufficient ID, but what about with a prepaid debit card that you can purchase from Woolworths with producing ID to purchase and use that prepaid debit card? The form indicates that if it paid for by a credit card (mastercard/via/Amex/Diners) then thats all the ID needed. If the card is a debit card then its also acceptable but a normal eftpos card isn't. Regarding the prepaid credit card from Woolies, if its one of the 'reloadable' ones then you need ID to purchase it. But one of the others might be the 'loophole' to get around providing ID. I doubt anyone is going to reject the option since the form isn't that clear. Actually had a bit of concern regarding providing ID. Went to my local woolies (wont name it) and they asked for drivers license as proof of ID to complete prepaid registration. Normally I dont have a problem providing the info but the woolies procedure left me shocked. They were simply copying my drivers license and other details info onto a scrap piece of paper and leaving it lying on the counter. They claimed they were busy and would add the info later into their database (normally I either fill out a standard paper form which they gimme a carbon copy of or they enter it into the database on the spot). In this case I refused to go thru with the activation, asked for my license back and went elsewhere to get it done (another woolies nearby lol) where I was reassured. But to get a credit card requires the '100 points' in the first place. This data is used as your ID. You can obtain a credit card without any form of ID, provided the credit limit is low. I have indeed done that in the past, applying online, without bothering to send in the ID documentation (as it required a signature from the Pope, Prime Minister, etc, too much effort). I got a few nag phone calls 'encouraging' me but in the end I only needed a small. See which states. Note: Knowingly giving false or misleading information may be a serious offence under the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cmth), punishable by imprisonment for up to 12 months An important word in that quote is the word may. PS: it took about one minute using Google to find that link. It will take you much more than a minute and considerable legal expertise to determine the circumstances that will constitute a serious breach of the Criminal Code Act 1995 (Cmth) when completing an AMTA ID declaration form. Doesn't really matter. You can argue it all you like. I work for a retailer and we are required by the ACMA to take down ID when people purchase a SIM or a Network Locked Pre-paid phone. This information is completed on a form and sent into an organisation in Canberra. The fines for the retailer for not completing this task is nasty. As I say to customers 'Whether or not I agree with this regulation, I still need to complete this form and need to see relevant ID' Half the time people are not carrying ID on them(!), so they don't get a sim or pre-paid phone from us. Considering that the sim's sell for $2 it is basically a waste of my time dealing with people buying sims. My Optus PrePaid SIM went dead in my phone, so I went to the post office to get a new $2 Optus SIM to change my number to using the activate replacement SIM feature on Optus My Account portal. No ID needed. (even though i had it on me if i had to use it) Walked in, picked one up off the shelf, went to the counter, cashier scanned it, I handed over $2, went home, typed new SIM number into the website. Number, messages and contacts were recovered to my SIM thanks to Optus SIM Backup. My guess why i needed no ID was i was just buying a blank SIM with nothing attached (eg: no credit, no handset) and that the Optus PrePaid SIM's have to be activated over the internet or on the phone to be given an 04 phone number. (Telstra allocate phone numbers to the SIM before registering it, the 04 number is printed on the back of the pack.) When I have purchased a new prepaid handset however I had to fill in the form (AusPost) or get the details entered into the computer system (Woolworths stores eg: BIGW. DSE) probably to register the IMEI number attached to the phone being used, not the SIM. You can argue it all you like. I work for a retailer and we are required by the ACMA to take down ID when people purchase a SIM or a Network Locked Pre-paid phone. This information is completed on a form and sent into an organisation in Canberra. The fines for the retailer for not completing this task is nasty. I wonder if any retailers have ever been fined for this? The only place that seems to ask for ID when I get a prepaid sim or device that includes a prepaid sim is Aust Post. I always pay cash for sims or devices that contain sims to see if they ask. If I buy a device that contains a sim I rarely bother activating it. Required by the ACMA to take down ID when people purchase a SIM or a Network Locked Pre-paid phone. Odd, i've bought a telstra phone from coles before and they made me fill out a massive form. Same form when i went to buy an optus sim (i left because i didnt have any id on me). Went to the dick smith next to the coles, gave them a $2 coin and walked out with a sim card. Did the same thing at an Auspost office, $2 coin and thats it. No ID, credit card, or anything. Bought optus and vodafone sims like this (although im sure i could have got a telstra one too if i wanted). Telstra stores checked my ID, but i didn't have to fill out any form to get a sim card (however they did activate the sim there and told me i wasn't allowed to activate it online, thought that was a bit fishy). I even got a 3 postpay simcard from vodafone for free without any id once. I just said my old sim card was acting up (which i didnt have on me, also didnt have any ID, sim card wasnt even in my name haha), they gave me a new one and told me to call up and activate it. So really the only place that made me fill out a form was coles. I wonder if any retailers have ever been fined for this? I know of at least one that most certainly was. The fine ended up in the hundreds of thousands area, from memory. However they did activate the sim there and told me i wasn't allowed to activate it online Most of this thread is over 2 years old, so it's very much out of date. In the last year the ID verification requirements have changed, and it's now no longer necessary to collect/verify ID at the point of sale, but it is at the point of activation. Some stores may still collect information just to be safe, or possibly because their processes are also not up-to-date.,. The reason the Telstra store would have wanted to do it there and then would be to definitively tie that sim/prepaid sale to their store to collect their commission on it – pretty standard for some stores, especially franchises. The only place that made me fill out a form was coles. Just depends on the place, I've purchased from coles before without any id, same with JB Hifi, then one time the person at JB wanted the form filled out. Doesn't make a lot of difference to me, but if I were someone who would prefer not to hand over those details I'd just keep trying until I found a place that didnt ask for ID or who let you put the item through a self service checkout or at a 7/11 or somewhere when they're busy. Most places don't seem to care. Friend of mine just put fake details into the online activation form. I assume he will remember the fake details should he ever have to maintain the account but other than that it's all been fine. He's had the same sim for a couple of years now. I guess this is what they are trying to reduce by requesting ID when you get the sim but if people just go to the next place that doesn't ask for ID at the time of purchase the ask for ID when buying a sim idea seems pretty pointless. It should be all or nothing. I don't care which as long as it's one or the other. Retailers that request ID are losing business to retailers that don't bother, mainly because it's a waste of time. It doesn't achieve anything if those that plan on using fake ID just shop around. 3 weeks ago needed to get a amaysim sim for a friend who just arrived in australia at woolworths through self checkout, the girl ask to see id my friend did not bring it along so i showed mine, did not enter it and it was fine. Went to buy another amaysim for myself today during the middle of the day and they would not allow it to be filled in from self service and forced me to wait at the service desk to get it filled in. Yet they have the $2 sim's right in front of the self service:/. Very double standards if they have not updated their processes or the older checkout folk have not been trained in the new process of at activation id check.
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